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      <title>‘We have a way to save communities’: Indigenous fire keepers share knowledge across colonial borders</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[First National Indigenous Fire Gathering brings First Nations experts from Canada, Australia and the U.S. together on syilx homelands in B.C.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure><img width="1400" height="934" src="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1-1400x934.jpeg" class="attachment-banner size-banner wp-post-image" alt="" decoding="async" srcset="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1-1400x934.jpeg 1400w, https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1-800x534.jpeg 800w, https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1-1024x683.jpeg 1024w, https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1-450x300.jpeg 450w, https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1-20x13.jpeg 20w, https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-1.jpeg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px" /><figcaption><small><em></em></small></figcaption></figure><p>Sitting among a group of fellow Indigenous fire keepers in syilx homelands, Rachel Cavanagh shared knowledge about cultural burns where she is from in Australia.<p>&ldquo;Ceremony,&rdquo; she said, &ldquo;has such a huge part to play in implementing fire.&rdquo;</p><p>A Minjungbal woman from the Bundjalung/Yugambeh Nation, Cavanagh journeyed more than 12,000 kilometres to attend the inaugural National Indigenous Fire Gathering in snpink&rsquo;tn (Penticton).&nbsp;</p><p>The summit brought together more than 100 Indigenous knowledge holders, leaders and experts from Canada, the United States and Australia between Sept. 23 and 25.&nbsp;</p><p>As Cavanagh explained it, the practice of implementing cultural fires year-round is not just about taking care of the landscapes and ecosystems on her nation&rsquo;s territories &mdash; what Indigenous Peoples in her homeland call &ldquo;Country.&rdquo;</p><p>&ldquo;It is about our medicines,&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;It is about the right type of smoke that is actually really healing for the body.&rdquo;</p><p>&ldquo;We use it to welcome our babies onto Country. We use it to say goodbye to our Elders as they transition through. We use it for<strong> </strong>all<strong> </strong>manner of different things.&rdquo;</p><img width="2560" height="1707" src="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/IndigenousFireGathering-5-scaled.jpg" alt=""><p><small><em>Rachel Cavanagh (second from right), a Minjungbal woman from the Bundjalung/Yugambeh Nation, brought insights on cultural burning from Australia to syilx homelands in September. &ldquo;We still struggle to access our land,&rdquo; she said.</em></small></p><p>Having Elders out on Country during cultural burns &mdash; whether they&rsquo;re implementing fire themselves, or telling stories and dancing &mdash; is key.</p><p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s that intergenerational transfer of knowledge,&rdquo; she emphasized. &ldquo;It&rsquo;s the sharing and storytelling that comes with practicing our culture and doing what we&rsquo;re doing.&rdquo;</p><p>As a member of the cultural fire movement, she said Indigenous fire practitioners are pushing for Australian governments to recognize them as &ldquo;traditional custodians&rdquo; of their territories.</p><p>&ldquo;We still struggle to access our land,&rdquo; she said.</p><p>Her message was far from unique to the Southern Hemisphere. It resonated with &mdash; and echoed &mdash; the experiences of many other Indigenous fire experts at the gathering.&nbsp;</p><h2>A renewed need for cultural burns</h2><p>September&rsquo;s gathering in snpink&rsquo;tn came roughly five years after an earlier meeting of Indigenous representatives from nations across Canada.</p><p>At that earlier event, attendees had raised alarms about &ldquo;how sick the land was,&rdquo; because its forests were no longer being maintained appropriately, leading to a thick overgrowth of vegetation and woody debris.</p><p>They warned this was fuelling the severity of fires, urging Western governments not to ignore the risk any longer.</p><p>&ldquo;It was a really great gathering of like-minded people that are interested in cultural burning &mdash; how Indigenous people want to be able to look after the land again,&rdquo; said Joe Gilchrist, an Indigenous fire keeper from the Skeetchestn Indian Band, a Secw&eacute;pemc community west of Kamloops.</p><p>&ldquo;Everything was causing pressure for us as Indigenous people to raise our voices and say, &lsquo;We have a way to save communities &hellip; with cultural burning and Indigenous land stewardship.&rsquo; &rdquo;</p><img width="1600" height="1067" src="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-2.jpeg" alt="Charles Kruger, a syilx and Sinixt technician with Ntityix Resources, monitors burning slash piles during wildfire mitigation work in syilx homelands in March. "><p><small><em>Cultural burning &mdash; also called prescribed, controlled or traditional burning &mdash; has been used by Indigenous Peoples for millennia, to manage the health of forests and ecosystems and reduce wildfire risk. </em></small></p><p>Before settler colonialism, Indigenous nations across the continent regularly conducted low-intensity controlled burns, carefully planned to maintain and replenish the health of the land and its ecosystems.</p><p>This ancient method of burning forests and grasslands &mdash; using what are today known as prescribed, controlled, cultural or traditional burns &mdash; encouraged particular plants and medicines to grow, while also preventing forest overgrowth.&nbsp;</p><p>Those practices limited the threat of devastating wildfires blazing out of control.</p><p>In the valleys, Secw&eacute;pemc people conducted early burns in the spring, Gilchrist explained; in the fall, they repeated the practice in the mountains.</p><p>&ldquo;Early spring was for our medicine down below in the grasslands,&rdquo; he added, &ldquo;and up high was for our higher elevation medicine areas, food for the animals to eat.&rdquo;</p>
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<p>But while Secw&eacute;pemc people saw fire as a medicine, settlers gradually removed it from their ecosystems, suppressing it as a problem to be fought.&nbsp;</p><p>Settlers favoured logging over maintaining forest health. As reactionary approaches to fighting wildfires became conventional, they led to more debris accumulating in the country&rsquo;s forests &mdash; ironically, leading to even more devastating wildfires today.</p><p>Indigenous fire keepers see directly how bad today&rsquo;s wildfires have become &mdash; &ldquo;how bad the losses are, evacuations,&nbsp;all that kind of stuff,&rdquo; said Gilchrist.</p><p>But they also see something more positive in their communities.</p><p>&ldquo;How much people just love the land, the animals, the fish, the air we breathe, the water,&rdquo; he said. &ldquo;How fire is essential to all of that.&rdquo;</p><h2><strong>&lsquo;Breaking down those challenges and barriers&rsquo;</strong></h2><p>As they gathered in snpink&rsquo;tn, Indigenous experts from around the world discussed ways they have been using fire to steward their homelands for generations.</p><p>They also highlighted bureaucratic barriers impeding their ability to do so.</p><p>The similarities between different First Nations&rsquo; approaches &mdash; and colonial resistance to them &mdash; were numerous.</p>
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<p>&ldquo;People are interested in collaborating and networking, to see what other people are doing,&rdquo; said Charlene  John, a member of the Tsal&rsquo;alh First Nation, a St&rsquo;at&rsquo;imc community west of Lillooet.&nbsp;</p><p>John chairs the Thunderbird Collective&rsquo;s steering committee, which organized the three-day gathering.</p><p>One of the meeting&rsquo;s goals, she said, was for Indigenous communities to share strategies to overcome the various longstanding barriers that exist to cultural burning.</p><p>&ldquo;Then, the Thunderbird Collective can start working toward breaking down those challenges and barriers, by providing resources or tools, or linking people in networks,&rdquo; she said.</p><p>Common issues highlighted by Indigenous participants at the gathering included regulatory and permitting challenges around conducting cultural burns.&nbsp;</p><img width="1600" height="1067" src="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image.jpeg" alt=""><p><small><em>Charlene (Char) John, a member of the Tsal&rsquo;alh First Nation and chair of the Thunderbird Collective steering committee, said one of the National Indigenous Fire Gathering&rsquo;s goals was to share strategies to overcome the longstanding barriers to cultural burning.</em></small></p><p>A growing number of First Nations communities want to be included in improving their landscapes through cultural burning, John said, &ldquo;and how that creates safer environments from wildfire.&rdquo;</p><p>Cultural burning also requires removing barriers to Indigenous communities participating in responding to wildfires, too.&nbsp;</p><p>To John, that means creating First Nations structures parallel to Western governments&rsquo; incident-command wildfire-fighting agencies, &ldquo;to be able to initiate how the fire should be put out, to be able to have that say,&rdquo; she added.</p><p>&ldquo;Not only here, but many First Nations people wish to advance and wish to seek the rights and authority to assert themselves in [fire] scenarios.&rdquo;</p><p>Hearing these concerns is crucial, as it helps provide the collective with a framework on &ldquo;how to solve those issues, eventually, as we develop and regrow,&rdquo; John noted.</p><p>But it&rsquo;s not just about creating greater access to cultural burning for Indigenous communities &mdash; it&rsquo;s about land stewardship.&nbsp;</p><p>Or, as John puts it, &ldquo;seeing the resilience brought back.&rdquo;</p><p>To achieve that, she described &ldquo;four pillars&rdquo; of the movement: knowledge-sharing, advocacy, land-based cultural practices and sovereignty.</p><p>&ldquo;These types of gatherings are going to help drive us to what we&rsquo;re doing in our four pillars,&rdquo; she said.</p><p>&ldquo;As we develop, we can also grow and help fill those gaps that people are still seeing in the different systems.&rdquo;</p><h2><strong>Supporting &lsquo;practices that Indigenous people want in the fire world&rsquo;</strong></h2><p>Before the Thunderbird Collective arose from a 2024 naming ceremony in Tk&rsquo;eml&uacute;ps (Kamloops), the group was called the National Indigenous Wildfire Management Working Group.</p><p>Last month&rsquo;s gathering was the&nbsp;federally funded group&rsquo;s first formal gathering under its new name.</p><p>&ldquo;Our goal is to grow and develop,&rdquo; John said, &ldquo;and move beyond the federal funding.&rdquo;</p><p>The Indigenous-led organization is &ldquo;restoring the sacred relationship between fire, land and people,&rdquo; she explained, &ldquo;cultivating healthy landscapes, resilient communities and multigenerational learning.&rdquo;</p><p>The steering committee consists of nine Indigenous people from different nations across Canada &mdash; many of whom are fire keepers and specialists who participate in and promote cultural burning around the world.</p><p>&ldquo;That&rsquo;s a big part of why they&rsquo;re here,&rdquo; John said. &ldquo;To support cultural burning, to support all the practices that Indigenous people want in the fire world.&rdquo;</p><img width="1600" height="1067" src="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-3.jpeg" alt=""><p><small><em>Joe Gilchrist (second from right), a Secw&eacute;pemc fire keeper, has been fighting fires since he was 15, and has seen the impact cultural burning can have on mitigating out-of-control wildfires.</em></small></p><p>One of those specialists is Secw&eacute;pemc fire keeper Gilchrist, who is the steering committee&rsquo;s vice-chair. Gilchrist started fighting fires when he was just 15.&nbsp;</p><p>He led the Merritt Unit Fire Crew from 1991 to 1996, before finishing his firefighting career with BC  Wildfire Service in the early 2010s.</p><p>&ldquo;Now, I travel around and I spread the word about cultural burning and Indigenous land stewardship,&rdquo; he said.&nbsp;</p><p>That work has taken him to Australia, Fiji, Aotearoa (New Zealand), Colombia and United Nations meetings in Rome to promote cultural burning and land stewardship. In his travels, he&rsquo;s met many Indigenous Peoples who share and advocate for those same values.</p><p>Later this month, he&rsquo;ll be taking his message to COP30 in Brazil, for the 2025 United Nations <a href="https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/cop30#:~:text=The%2030th%20UN%20climate%20conference,actions%20to%20tackle%20climate%20change." rel="noopener">climate change conference</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>&ldquo;Just all over the world they say the exact same thing as we do &mdash; about our love for the land, our love for our animals and our water,&rdquo; he said.</p><p>&ldquo;Fire was used &hellip; all around the globe.&rdquo;</p><p>Keeping Indigenous fire traditions alive isn&rsquo;t just about caring for the land and preventing out-of-control wildfires, however.</p><p>Co-ordinating with other communities on the issue is also helping assert Indigenous sovereignty, &ldquo;upholding our jurisdiction, and practicing our rights,&rdquo; Justin Kane, chief of Ts&rsquo;kw&rsquo;aylaxw First Nation and a member of the Thunderbird Collective&rsquo;s steering committee, said.&nbsp;</p><h2>&lsquo;This work is a part of our assertion of sovereignty&rsquo;</h2><p>On the gathering&rsquo;s first day, both regional and international Indigenous communities spoke of the different ways that they use fire to manage their territory &mdash; work that correlates to exercising title and sovereignty over their land.</p><p>In sm&#601;lqm&iacute;x (Similkameen)-syilx territory, Lauren Terbasket of the Lower Similkameen Indian Band said managing her people&rsquo;s territories through fire and water diversion is a way of asserting &ldquo;title and rights.&rdquo;</p><p>&ldquo;We believe that this work is a part of our assertion of sovereignty on the land,&rdquo; she added.&nbsp;</p><p>Continuing to use traditional and ancient management practices, such as cultural burns, is a way to prove her nation&rsquo;s &ldquo;ongoing use and occupation,&rdquo; Terbasket said.</p><p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s not just a matter of making partnerships, although that&rsquo;s what we do &mdash; it is our way of asserting our title, our jurisdiction and our rights on our own lands.&rdquo;</p>
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<p>In 2018, the band conducted a prescribed burn in the Crater Creek area with BC Wildfire Service and other government agencies.&nbsp;</p><p>This area is located within the Ashnola Corridor, which was <a href="https://indiginews.com/news/sm%C9%99lqmix-declares-ashnola-corridor-as-an-indigenous-protected-and-conserved-area/" rel="noopener">designated</a> as an Indigenous Protected and Conserved Area in 2022.&nbsp;</p><p>When the Crater Creek wildfire swept through the area in 2023, burning more than 40,000 hectares of land, Terbasket said it exhibited &ldquo;high intensity burning right until it hit the edge of our traditional burned area.&rdquo;</p><p>But many homes located on different reserves throughout the community were not touched by the fire, she recalled.</p><p>&ldquo;We and our Elders believe that it&rsquo;s because we continue to exercise our responsibility to the land,&rdquo; she said.</p><p>The band is now in the middle of a multi-year prescribed burn project to the ak&#620;&#661;pas (Place of the Nighthawk) area, with phase one seeing 40 of 370 hectares treated last spring.</p><p>&ldquo;It was really in response to habitat degradation &mdash; it was an area that was completely overgrown with sage brush,&rdquo; Terbasket said.&nbsp;</p><p>&ldquo;Nothing else was growing there. Our traditional foods were no longer growing.&rdquo;</p><h2>Without fires &lsquo;our homes become tinder boxes&rsquo;</h2><p>Similarly, Margo Robbins, of the Yurok Tribe in California, said her culture also depends on fire.&nbsp;</p><p>Fire helps them in many ways, she explained &mdash; regularly burning the landscape helps foster medicines and traditional food sources, and also encourages the growth of plants used for basket-making.</p><p>&ldquo;Before we started burning, you&rsquo;d seldom see a deer on the reservation,&rdquo; said Robbins, co-founder and executive director of the Cultural Fire Management Council.</p><p>She described her community&rsquo;s young men leaving their reservation &mdash; sometimes risking heavy fines &mdash; to bring deer meat home to feed their families.</p><p>&ldquo;Now,&rdquo; Robbins said, &ldquo;they just go to the places where we burn.&rdquo;</p>
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<p>Fire also impacts her community&rsquo;s water quality, she said.</p><p>&ldquo;When we burn and leave the charcoal on the landscape, it filters the water, making it more pure,&rdquo; she explained.</p><p>&ldquo;Also, it reduces the amount of vegetation on the land, [creating] more water flow to the creeks, which flows to the rivers.&rdquo;</p><p>Most important, the community&rsquo;s use of prescribed and cultural burning also helps prevent out-of-control wildfires.</p><p>&ldquo;One of the few things that impacts the spread and intensity of wildfire is where the place has already been burned,&rdquo; she said.&nbsp;</p><p>&ldquo;In the absence of fire, our homes become tinder boxes.&rdquo;</p><h2>&lsquo;Let&rsquo;s take our place in the ecosystem&rsquo;</h2><p>It&rsquo;s only been 12 years since the Yurok people reclaimed their right to do cultural burns.&nbsp;</p><p>Robbins said her grandchildren have never known a world where their community did not manage fire on their territories.</p><p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s really an ambition to be putting fire on the ground,&rdquo; she explained, &ldquo;to help create the enabling conditions for not only us to burn, but for others to burn also.&rdquo;</p><p>She is part of several groups who meet together to influence state policy and guide legislation.&nbsp;</p><p>In 2021, California <a href="https://wildfiretaskforce.org/prescribed-fire-liability-pilot/#:~:text=Program%20Impact:%20SB%20170%20(2021%20Budget%20Act%2C,claims%20fund%20for%20the%20State%20to%20establish" rel="noopener">created a prescribed fire liability fund</a> &ldquo;to support and expand private prescribed fires throughout the state,&rdquo; budgeting US$20 million (C$28 million) for the initiative.</p><img width="1600" height="1067" src="https://thenarwhal.ca/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-4.jpeg" alt=""><p><small><em>Cultural burning is not only a means of protecting forests and land, but of asserting Indigenous sovereignty. Gatherings that unite Indigenous people internationally and regionally can help support this goal through knowledge-sharing. </em></small></p><p>She believes it&rsquo;s &ldquo;our responsibility as humans&rdquo; to help take care of the land with fire.</p><p>&ldquo;We can&rsquo;t just rely on lightning strikes to do it,&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;We are part of the ecosystem. We need to step up.&rdquo;</p><p>She hopes more Indigenous Peoples learn to reconnect with traditions that &ldquo;use fire safely&rdquo; again.&nbsp;</p><p>&ldquo;Let&rsquo;s take our place in the ecosystem to restore it to help.&rdquo;</p><p>One strategy the community undertook was to get everyone involved in encouraging family burns. Robbins explained this approach was the Yurok&rsquo;s &ldquo;traditional way of burning&rdquo; &mdash; families &ldquo;out burning around their homes and gathering places, at the right place at the right time,&rdquo; she said.</p><p>They also offer &ldquo;aspiring firefighter workshops&rdquo; for &ldquo;people that have never worked with fire that want to learn how,&rdquo; she said.</p><p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s my belief that everybody should have the right to use fire. We used to have that right. We used to do that, and our landscapes looked a lot better.&rdquo;</p><h2>&lsquo;We do it the way we want to do it&rsquo;</h2><p>Seven participants represented First Nations in Australia at the gathering, where they offered insight into their people&rsquo;s relationship with fire and how they use it on their homelands.</p><p>&ldquo;In different places, during certain climates, we&rsquo;ll burn for plants, for animals,&rdquo; Deborah Swan, a Ngarrindjeri imimini (woman), said.</p><p>&ldquo;We never use fuel. To us, that&rsquo;s another contamination to soil and the Earth. We use natural fibers and things like fire sticks.&rdquo;</p><p>Certain fire sticks are used depending on a burn&rsquo;s objectives &mdash; for instance, what kind of plants or other resources a fire keeper is hoping will regenerate afterwards.</p><p>She noted her community comes across different government legislation that is &ldquo;trying to take our knowledge&rdquo; without actually respecting Indigenous Peoples leading the work.</p><p>&ldquo;Sometimes, we&rsquo;re being put to the side,&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;Or they&rsquo;re still using fuel, or still telling us when we can burn.&rdquo;</p><p>She believes the fire traditions must be maintained &ldquo;to keep our women strong, and know that they&rsquo;re supported to continue their practices.&rdquo;</p><p>Cultural burns, she said, are still &ldquo;very much a community burn.&rdquo;</p><p>&ldquo;The children are there,&rdquo; she explained. &ldquo;You can walk around barefeet if you want to.&rdquo;</p><p>When it comes to cultural burning on Crown land, Cavanagh said Australian federal and state governments claim they want to include First Nations&rsquo; voices in fire legislation and create opportunities for them.</p><p>But that inclusion happens on settlers&rsquo; terms, &ldquo;under their prescriptions,&rdquo; she said &mdash; with government telling Indigenous Peoples rules such as, &ldquo;You must do this training&rdquo; or &ldquo;You have to wear a hat, you got to wear shoes, you got to do all these things.&rdquo;</p><p>But cultural fire on Country is easy for her community when it&rsquo;s on their private lands, she said.&nbsp;</p><p>&ldquo;We do it the way we want to do it. It is actually us leading and having a say on what that looks like. That&rsquo;s the important thing.&rdquo;</p><h2>Fire as a source of Indigenous healing</h2><p>Cassandra McKechnie &mdash; who is Wiradjuri, Taepadthigi, Kulkagal, Saibailaig and Erubian &mdash; said the cultural fire space has become a source of healing for Indigenous Peoples in Australia.</p><p>&ldquo;You see the impact it has on Country and everything that lives within Country, and that extends to us as well,&rdquo; McKechnie said.</p><p>&ldquo;I started to feel that in myself and in my spirit.&rdquo;</p><p>Rhys Pacey, a Waagay cultural burn practitioner and the chief fire practitioner with Yurruungga Aboriginal Corporation, said the beauty of cultural burning is also in all the relationships it builds &mdash; not just with the community and its children, but with the land itself.</p><p>That includes interacting with wildlife, trees and other plants, Pacey said.</p><p>Once a cultural fire is started, and its smoke begins to appear,&nbsp;&ldquo;You just see the way everything reacts,&rdquo; he explained. &ldquo;Then you stop and you use all your senses.&nbsp;You just immerse yourself. It&rsquo;s repairing.&rdquo;</p><p>Dean Thomas Kelly, chief executive officer of Yurruungga Aboriginal Corporation, described himself as &ldquo;a proud Gumbaynggirr custodian.&rdquo;&nbsp;</p><p>Kelly said gatherings of Indigenous Peoples &mdash; like the one in snpink&rsquo;tn last month &mdash; help him realize &ldquo;we haven&rsquo;t lost anything when we come together.&rdquo;</p><p>&ldquo;And I think that is the most beautiful journey I have been on.&rdquo;</p></p>
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